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to nsa partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information we collect it on european citizens. it represents information that collected nato allies in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. i understand you correctly, this information was collected external to the country of which it was reported in defense of operations in which nato participates. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> as you study the networks of aboutrld -- let's talk the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services to use networks you would find in any nation in the european union? >> absolutely. >> how about russian intelligence services? networksy use european inside the european union? >> yes. >> how about al qaeda? could they use networks found in the european union to plan execution of operations? >> they could absolutely. it be in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities if it was targeted at the united states or o
to nsa partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information we collect it on european citizens. it represents information that collected nato allies in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. i understand you correctly, this information was collected external to the country of which it was reported in defense of operations in which nato participates. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> as you study the networks of aboutrld -- let's talk the european...
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one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content. let me be clear. under 215 the nsa cannot listen to anyone's phonecalls. what section 215 does is allow the government to connect the dots. these dots could have been connected to prevent 9/11 and are necessary to prevent the next attack. we could have determined one of the 9/11 attackers for hijackers was in san diego and made a call to an al qaeda number in yemen. i shudder to think what connections will be missed if the program were completely eliminated. keep in mind law enforcement obtains and analyzes these types of records every day to stop organized crime and keep drugs out. we don't wan
one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content....
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if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address civil liberties and privacy issues that you're not doing? >> from my perspective, no. one of the things, and i was just going to have chris add one element if i could on here to your question. >> we'd actually just described a note to ourselves, but at nsa, the annual dollars we spend on this, the 30 million, and we have 300 full-time e qif lance, but what i scribed on the note is it's everybody's job. everyone has a role to play in compliance. we bring our employees in on their first day whether military or civilian, we give them all the oath of office, tell them it's to the constitution, the whole
if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address...
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, which the court has given the nsa the authority to scoop up all of our phone metadata that the nsa -- that the romance have been revealed -- that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden. it could put the country at risk and leave the u.s. open to another terrorist attack. they were not open to that reform in particular. but the other reforms come out some of them, they were open to. >> -- but the other reforms, some of them, they were open to. there is a pretty good likelihood. a lot of these individual reforms are incorporated into broader nsa reform bills that have been introduced. when it comes to the chances of these bills passing, there is bipartisan support, which is something is unusual around congress. bipartisan support can move these. this is something the jan schakowsky said today at the hearing. >> the two individuals who wrote , one republican, one democrat -- yes, one republican, one democrat -- who wrote the usa patriot act shortly after 9/11 have now introduced the usa freedom act that essentially would repeal many of the aspects and change them, of the pa
, which the court has given the nsa the authority to scoop up all of our phone metadata that the nsa -- that the romance have been revealed -- that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden. it could put the country at risk and leave the u.s. open to another terrorist attack. they were not open to that reform in particular. but the other reforms come out some of them, they were open to. >> -- but the other reforms, some of them, they were open to. there is a pretty good...
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if the nsa can figure out something, that's one thing, and i think we could understand that the nsa whether it's doing the right thing or the wrong thing at heart has our best interests in mind whether they're doing it directly or not. if the nsa can do it in 2013, almost 2014, could the chinese do it in two years and could the north koreans do it in ten? in other words, if something is flawed from the beginning and only the nsa can peek into it, that's still a problem. >> it is potentially a problem. in fact, we pointed this out back in the mid '70s with the data encryption standard. there it had 100,000 million million keys which sounds like a lot, but i and my colleague figured out that you could search that in about a day on a computer built -- >> you met with the nsa at stanford university and say, hey, fellows, this is not enough. >> well, not initially. initial biwe wely we were deali the national bureau of standards, now the national institute of standards and technology and we just thought it was a mistake at first. but over six months as i wrote letters and got back bs replies, it
if the nsa can figure out something, that's one thing, and i think we could understand that the nsa whether it's doing the right thing or the wrong thing at heart has our best interests in mind whether they're doing it directly or not. if the nsa can do it in 2013, almost 2014, could the chinese do it in two years and could the north koreans do it in ten? in other words, if something is flawed from the beginning and only the nsa can peek into it, that's still a problem. >> it is...
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everything that nsa does in term of query is auditable. we think it's an important protection we have in place and apply as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. concern was recently raised to me about the absence of the privacy officer of nsa. could you tell me me two things. how soon do you think you'll have one? what is the process for appointing one? what would the person's role be in programs like the one we're discussing? >> today we have a -- a decision was need put the position together in a role that would be a direct report to the director. this was announced over the summer. and proceeding with the hiring process. if i recall correctly. i think the request for rÉsume and interest closes in the first week of november. it's been publicly advertised. from that point forward we proceed expeditiously with a hiring process. one thing i would note not only are the functions we think important. today work closely with the chief civil liberty and privacy officer. i think the focused attention that such a person could bring at the nsa as pro
everything that nsa does in term of query is auditable. we think it's an important protection we have in place and apply as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. concern was recently raised to me about the absence of the privacy officer of nsa. could you tell me me two things. how soon do you think you'll have one? what is the process for appointing one? what would the person's role be in programs like the one we're discussing? >> today we have a -- a decision was need put the...
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>> this obviously is beyond nsa as well. that is unusual and extraordinary steps to take with respect to information that has been inquired. i started out as a prosecutor and there were all sorts of circumstances which information is up acquired that relates to persons that are not the subject of investigation. you can be overheard on the title three why your tap or fisa wiretap. there me be information on you. the general rule on the premise has been information that is lawfully acquired can be used by the government and a proper exercise of authority. we have rules that limit our ability to collect, maintain and disseminate information about persons. those rules as you know are fairly detailed but generally speaking we can't do that except for foreign intelligence purposes or when there is evidence of the crime and so on and so forth but what we can't do under section 702 is go out and use the collection authority to get information for the purpose of getting information about u.s. persons. once we have that information i
>> this obviously is beyond nsa as well. that is unusual and extraordinary steps to take with respect to information that has been inquired. i started out as a prosecutor and there were all sorts of circumstances which information is up acquired that relates to persons that are not the subject of investigation. you can be overheard on the title three why your tap or fisa wiretap. there me be information on you. the general rule on the premise has been information that is lawfully acquired...
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to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you would find in any nation states in the european union. >> . >> computer networks inside the european union for what they are up to. >> absolutely. >> whow about al quaida, could they use, is it possible for them to use the networks found in the european union to conduct planning operations or execution of operations? >> could. absolutely. >> and would bit in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities especially if it went through the european union and maybe even targeted at the united states o
to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you...
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general keith has said the nsa and the cyber threat commands with the u.s. army are indistinguishable. what is the potential impact with the right to protect with domestic issues and foreign issues? a classic example would be with the mexican cartels and all instances across the mexican border and with syria. >> want to start domestic and go foreign or start foreign and go domestic? one of the problems on overeignty is the actual definition of sovereignty. one of the problems we had in pakistan was that in questions when we were accused of violating the sovereignty of pakistan to kill osama bin laden, one of the counter arguments made from our side was that pakistan does not control the entire sovereignty of its country. the pakistani army does not extend its writ to the border f afghanistan. that is one of the reasons america has to take other measures. what i am getting at is be careful about the solidity of sovereignty. it is a spongy concept in a lot of the countries we are dealing with. second, the idea of how this has changed over the last 18 years. th
general keith has said the nsa and the cyber threat commands with the u.s. army are indistinguishable. what is the potential impact with the right to protect with domestic issues and foreign issues? a classic example would be with the mexican cartels and all instances across the mexican border and with syria. >> want to start domestic and go foreign or start foreign and go domestic? one of the problems on overeignty is the actual definition of sovereignty. one of the problems we had in...
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about 80% of the work that the nsa does is outside the u.s. and guidelines that be do you or your predecessors put in place. are you looking at whether those guidelines provide any protection for national -- international -- foreign or are you just rummaging through their communications yucca >> -- their communications? >> we are in the process of making sure that we are respecting an appropriate balance between keeping the american people safe and our allies say. we are in conversations with our partners in europe and other parts of the world to make sure that we strike that appropriate balance. there are some fundamental questions that i think we have to ask ourselves, simply because we can do certain things does not necessarily mean we should do those things. the chiefo be question that must be resolved. what is the cost and the benefit? what are the benefits we are receiving? what are the protections we are , against the privacy that we necessarily have to give up. that review is underway. it is a thorough review. the president is fully ga
about 80% of the work that the nsa does is outside the u.s. and guidelines that be do you or your predecessors put in place. are you looking at whether those guidelines provide any protection for national -- international -- foreign or are you just rummaging through their communications yucca >> -- their communications? >> we are in the process of making sure that we are respecting an appropriate balance between keeping the american people safe and our allies say. we are in...
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that was a defeat the intelligence gathering of the nsa. bisected question would be how do you combat the tide for those did not value privacy? go from the exchanges of been interested question to say who wants to know? to yogurt people just voluntarily give everything? how to educate and to whom i am not sure people are so aware how much misinformation with a single individual they could but most of the information is inaccurate. even with the database segregators even roberta who live todd a street 50 years ago is in l.a. you come up with the aggregate to show conviction said failure to appear for the traffic violation. i don't think people realize the information that they have to try to clear there name. >> the first question is important it is not just brazil but china and every rare but the recognition that our multinational corporations are protected by the nation state and they may be a multinational and other ways but there is a parochial concern and a recognition of other areas of control a end to independence to those places to b
that was a defeat the intelligence gathering of the nsa. bisected question would be how do you combat the tide for those did not value privacy? go from the exchanges of been interested question to say who wants to know? to yogurt people just voluntarily give everything? how to educate and to whom i am not sure people are so aware how much misinformation with a single individual they could but most of the information is inaccurate. even with the database segregators even roberta who live todd a...
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the nsa program keeps them for five years. the likelihood would be that much of the information was simply not be there. there would be nothing to connect. >> add something. >> sure. >> it is my understanding -- and i am not an sec lawyer by any means, but it relates to total billing records and it is not at all clear to me -- that does not include local calls and the providers move to an environment where none of it is billed. >> thank you. you just answered my next question. that is good. related sleep, we have heard talk about competition downward in terms of retention requirements. providers for commercially competitive reasons would decrease their own record retention. have you seen any evidence of that actually happening? >> i cannot speak to that particular. in order to run a program the data has to be provided were kept in a way that allows it to be integrated. in addition to the availability of the records, they have to be available in a way that would allow for the sort of analysis. >> can any of you speak to whether
the nsa program keeps them for five years. the likelihood would be that much of the information was simply not be there. there would be nothing to connect. >> add something. >> sure. >> it is my understanding -- and i am not an sec lawyer by any means, but it relates to total billing records and it is not at all clear to me -- that does not include local calls and the providers move to an environment where none of it is billed. >> thank you. you just answered my next...
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through allegations of the press the nsa has secretly voted to communication links with yahoo! in data centers under project muscular that allows the nsa to copy data flow among said davis innocency silicon on dash a silicon companies and will they please explain what impact that has on products that are the subject of this hearing? what start of that. a stiff neck and i can address the veracity of the article but to make a few general points, even by the terms of the article that self there is no connection to the assad program we are here to discuss. but i would suggest that any application made with the press coverage of this issue that nsa uses the executive order to undermine or circumvent or get around the eyes i is inaccurate. an end to fisa has jurisdictional coverage you're either covered for your not. and historically it was intended to cover that type of collection that would impact privacy and the key factors that many scholars said have written about like the nationality of targets targets, allocation of coverage it how it is undertaken by would no to as a general
through allegations of the press the nsa has secretly voted to communication links with yahoo! in data centers under project muscular that allows the nsa to copy data flow among said davis innocency silicon on dash a silicon companies and will they please explain what impact that has on products that are the subject of this hearing? what start of that. a stiff neck and i can address the veracity of the article but to make a few general points, even by the terms of the article that self there is...
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using information leaked by nsa contractor edward snowden, a spanish newspaper reported the nsa collected numbers and locations of the phone calls, but not actual content. this after learning that the nsa has also been tuning into the communications up dirty five world leaders. now the european union parliamentary delegation is preparing for a visit to the u.s. to express concerns over nsa surveillance tactics. political commentator sam sacks brings us more. >> german intelligence officials will come to washington dc to demand answers from the white house about surveillance on chancellor angela merkel. is a marked the partner from just a few months ago, when germany was defending its foes cooperation with the nsa. that was after edward snowden leak in june that the nsa was collecting a half ilya and telephone and internet telik communications every month. chancellor angela merkel was put to defend her government's cooperation with the nsa, saying it prevented terrorist attacks. we can only protect the population if we cooperate with others, her office said. edward snowden describe the coz
using information leaked by nsa contractor edward snowden, a spanish newspaper reported the nsa collected numbers and locations of the phone calls, but not actual content. this after learning that the nsa has also been tuning into the communications up dirty five world leaders. now the european union parliamentary delegation is preparing for a visit to the u.s. to express concerns over nsa surveillance tactics. political commentator sam sacks brings us more. >> german intelligence...
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nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom for them because you do have rpz like peter king defending the administration and defending the president. there are not clear divided lines as we saw with the government shutdown and even early on with republicans who were hand in hand on fighting the health care law. >> tamron, let pe put it a different way. a lot of folks on capitol hill are all -- the more we talk about nsa and all of the glitches involved with the website and problems and flaws in the health care law, and you're for getting about the governm
nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom...
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first and foremost, i've had eight-plus years at nsa. they are among the finest people in this country. what they do every day for this nation is unheralded. we don't get a lot of fanfare out of it, but it's absolutely superb. saturday i had the opportunity to work, again, which we have done every weekend since i've been there, to support our troops in afghanistan who are under threat of an attack. we do that all the time. our people were in there supporting our troops, supporting the military operations. and in eight-plus years, not one person has ever come up to me and said, i have to work tonight or the weekend. they always come in. they protect our troops, and they protect this country. they've taken an oath to defend the nation and to protect our civil liberties and privacy. and they do that better than anyone i have ever seen. it is a privilege and honor to work next to them every day. what i want to tell you about is how did we get here, talk about the business record fisa, and i want to give you insights to what we see going on w
first and foremost, i've had eight-plus years at nsa. they are among the finest people in this country. what they do every day for this nation is unheralded. we don't get a lot of fanfare out of it, but it's absolutely superb. saturday i had the opportunity to work, again, which we have done every weekend since i've been there, to support our troops in afghanistan who are under threat of an attack. we do that all the time. our people were in there supporting our troops, supporting the military...
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within the nsa programs we are seeing, a lot of checks have proven ineffective. traditionally, the fourth amendment sets up a warrant requirement. no warrant shall issue but on probable cause. the shift to a more universal collection mechanism requires the bypassing of that. whether that is true, the oak warrants issued -- bulk warrants issued through fisa courts or the data gathered outside any kind of warrant. but that model seems to be and in effect of way of overseeing ineffective way of overseeing. what is in effect it is the secrecy. one of the things that is stunning about the revelations and the scope of the programs is how far they have gone without any public discussion. also, in the context of the fisa courts, we have seen fisa judges saying, we are not the most effective check on this. we cannot evaluate the information resented to us in one-sided situations in a one- sided preceding where there is no adversary. he cannot supervise what is being done with our orders, what is being acted on, because we are just a court. the secrecy and adversarial natu
within the nsa programs we are seeing, a lot of checks have proven ineffective. traditionally, the fourth amendment sets up a warrant requirement. no warrant shall issue but on probable cause. the shift to a more universal collection mechanism requires the bypassing of that. whether that is true, the oak warrants issued -- bulk warrants issued through fisa courts or the data gathered outside any kind of warrant. but that model seems to be and in effect of way of overseeing ineffective way of...
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thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span. have they taken control of speech -- a c-span, too? what was your comment about? caller: i just wanted to register my complaint about it. host: what was your complaint about overall? caller: that this is a terrible thing. we have had our freedom taken away from us. we have no privacy whatsoever. if they want your phone calls, they get it. if they want your e-mails, they get it. whatever they want. not just here, all around the world. host: did you have concerns about the recent stories about monitoring activities? caller: yes. they
thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span....
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you can't just hire former nsa staffers saying, hey, we have oversight now. edward snowden even. who apparently is making noise about testifying before congress via skype which would be interesting. >> really? all right, greg, we heard some sort of concerns from jim and ross about need for transparency and oversight. what's your reaction? >> oversight failed. that's the bottom line. that's what we learned from the disclosures. all the things carrie talked about, all mechanisms put in place to protect privacy, oversight tailed. -- failed. now we have to figure out a way to reconstruct them. when you sthart to think about how to reconstruct oversight and how to make it work, think about the causes of the failure. one of the big causes of the failure was intelligence officials repeatedly misled congress. they did it at open hearings, and whether it was behind the scenes as well, we don't know, but there was misleading statements. they misled the public about what was going on. they even misled the court that's supposed to be deciding whether they can do what they want to do and what
you can't just hire former nsa staffers saying, hey, we have oversight now. edward snowden even. who apparently is making noise about testifying before congress via skype which would be interesting. >> really? all right, greg, we heard some sort of concerns from jim and ross about need for transparency and oversight. what's your reaction? >> oversight failed. that's the bottom line. that's what we learned from the disclosures. all the things carrie talked about, all mechanisms put...
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but particularly with nsa and health care as you point out, nsa situation obviously a huge domestic and foreign policy issue, health care is his signature achievement to this point in his presidency. you would think he would be more in the loop is a way of saying it than he has been. >> how much of this shock that's being expressed by the allies just simply to try to get some leverage with the u.s. because everyone knew this was going on and they do it to us and we do it to them. the world of spying. >> you have to express anger this is going on. if you suspected or knew it was going on. they can use it effectively for leverage. the question now is whether or not united states is going to enter into new nonspying agreements with countries they have long resisted entering these agreements with. so whether it's the french or germans, you know, they now have a good deal of leverage to try to negotiate these pacts if they so choose. it's quite possible one result is there will be more nonspying agreements with european allies than there were before. >> i would bet on germany and not on fran
but particularly with nsa and health care as you point out, nsa situation obviously a huge domestic and foreign policy issue, health care is his signature achievement to this point in his presidency. you would think he would be more in the loop is a way of saying it than he has been. >> how much of this shock that's being expressed by the allies just simply to try to get some leverage with the u.s. because everyone knew this was going on and they do it to us and we do it to them. the...
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hawaii for the people in nsa hawaii. he did not have access to the fisa data nor business records 215 or the more sensitive, but he got great access to what we call the core capabilities that we have in some of our product reporting, and he took a lot of that. he took a lot of that data with him and shared that with newspaper reporters, and that's dribbled out, and i believe it's done in a way to cause maximum harm. i don't know why they want to harm our country, but that's happening, and our allies. it's wrong. >> let me ask you this. as far as the information that you all collect and store, what is the difference there? i know that these microtarters, interpret ads, whatever, they know the food we eat, what car we drive, and they know all different types of information about us. what things do they use different from what you use because evidently you have access to less information than what they do. we're a foreign intelligence agency. the only reason we have that business record is to connect foreign and domestic. t
hawaii for the people in nsa hawaii. he did not have access to the fisa data nor business records 215 or the more sensitive, but he got great access to what we call the core capabilities that we have in some of our product reporting, and he took a lot of that. he took a lot of that data with him and shared that with newspaper reporters, and that's dribbled out, and i believe it's done in a way to cause maximum harm. i don't know why they want to harm our country, but that's happening, and our...
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host: how do you know that your phone is tapped the nsa e caller: -- nsa? the nsait came out that was tapping phones, and the day behind, it said tuesday but my said monday. host: would someone know that the nsa is doing this? guest: no, they do not do that without a warrant and those phone taps would be done by the fbi, local police, state police and others. i do not know how that would indicate that the nsa is doing it because the data is collected away from the phone itself, it is collected as a process. not directly off the phone. i am not sure about the proof or why his phone would be one day off like that, but i cannot imagine that it has anything to do with the nsa. the data center being used in utah to collect this information, they are having power outages and issues with having enough power to operate. have you been briefed on that? what is being done about it yeah -- what is being done about it yeah co --? contractors will have to get that fixed to make sure the site is up and ready to go when it is time to go. it has got to be consistent and rel
host: how do you know that your phone is tapped the nsa e caller: -- nsa? the nsait came out that was tapping phones, and the day behind, it said tuesday but my said monday. host: would someone know that the nsa is doing this? guest: no, they do not do that without a warrant and those phone taps would be done by the fbi, local police, state police and others. i do not know how that would indicate that the nsa is doing it because the data is collected away from the phone itself, it is collected...
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the nsa program keeps them for five years. so the likelihood without the 215 program would be that much of the information would simply not be there. so there would be no dots to connect. >> is it speeded may i have something on that? >> sure. >> it's my understanding that -- i'm not an sec lawyer by any means but the fcc regulation relates to pull billing records but it's not that alter to me thathat if all providers move ta system where they're no longer -- that doesn't include local calls. second, if provided with an environment where the, none of them are building for toll calls, whether those records would be putting even pursuant to the fcc regulation. >> thank you. you just answered my next question. that's good. relatedly, we heard some talk about sort of a competition downward in terms of requirements where it's not required by fcc regulation that providers for sort of commercial competitive reasons would decrease their own records retention periods. have you seen any evidence of that actually happening, or is that mo
the nsa program keeps them for five years. so the likelihood without the 215 program would be that much of the information would simply not be there. so there would be no dots to connect. >> is it speeded may i have something on that? >> sure. >> it's my understanding that -- i'm not an sec lawyer by any means but the fcc regulation relates to pull billing records but it's not that alter to me thathat if all providers move ta system where they're no longer -- that doesn't...
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. >>> today the nsa is on the do offensive. an italian magazine suggests that the nsa recorded vatican telephone calls, and there's more, the washington post is reporting that nsa broke into google and yahoo data centers worldwide. the director of the inner sa says not true. >> -- nsa says not true. >> it would be illegal for us to do that, so i don't know what the report is, but i can tell you factually, we do not have access to google servers, yahoo servers. >>> so who is to blame for the obamacare website mess? well, here is what health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius told a congressional committee today. >> who was in charge as it was being -- >> the team was involved. >> who is in charge. >> michelle snyder. >> michelle snider is the one responsible for this debacle. >> well, excuse me, congresswoman, michelle snyder is not responsible for the debalkable. hold me accountable for the debacle. i'm responsible. >> sebelius apologized to the american people for the problems with the rollout and promised things w
. >>> today the nsa is on the do offensive. an italian magazine suggests that the nsa recorded vatican telephone calls, and there's more, the washington post is reporting that nsa broke into google and yahoo data centers worldwide. the director of the inner sa says not true. >> -- nsa says not true. >> it would be illegal for us to do that, so i don't know what the report is, but i can tell you factually, we do not have access to google servers, yahoo servers. >>>...
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was the nsa, indeed, doing this without letting people know? and that's a big question to me. >> one of the things we were talking about is how remarkable it would be that edward snowden might have known about this and barack obama didn't. then the other thing that strikes me is, you know, obviously i under that these programs are very controversial but the amount of controversy over this program is a little bit higher it seems than when we found out they were collecting bulk data on regular citizens. diane feinstein the chairman of the senate intelligence committee is outraged over this disclosure but fine with the other ones. >> what's worse to express, mike barnacle, that i think it's many world leaders that have this happen to them not just angela merkel and i wonder if that should have come out or if that creates more of a firestorm. but, again, it's not george w. bush sitting there with his head phones on listening to angela merkel's conversations, or president obama, it's very different. mike? >> but, mike, if the president knows, if he'
was the nsa, indeed, doing this without letting people know? and that's a big question to me. >> one of the things we were talking about is how remarkable it would be that edward snowden might have known about this and barack obama didn't. then the other thing that strikes me is, you know, obviously i under that these programs are very controversial but the amount of controversy over this program is a little bit higher it seems than when we found out they were collecting bulk data on...
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important nsa is an agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection is not over her, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. that i not need to know was talking to my brother or my aunt on the phone. -- if they suspect you or they suspect me, they can get a warrant and they can wiretap her phone. they do not need to wiretap every phone in the world. it is mind-boggling to think about the amount of data that is. several comments were made by keith alexander and he made the case that what they do helps agencies like the fbi. i want to show you and get your response. [video clip] >> we are only part of the intelligence agency that does that. the fbi is a tremendous partner in the homeland. they do great work. our job is to give them the information we see coming from overseas into the united states. tremendo
important nsa is an agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection is not over her, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. that i not need to know was talking to my brother or my aunt on the phone. -- if they suspect you or they suspect me, they can get a warrant and they can wiretap...
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>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state wants this, department of state wants to know this. or somebody else wants to know that. priorities are ranked. as i understand it these are the priorities. one, terrorism. two, support of our military abroad. three, nuclear counter proliferation. four, hard targets. and now cyber. and those are the main areas. so essentially the nsa is told to do certain things and it does it. what i think we need to do, we work very well with the house committee and leadership, mike rogers and congressman rupersberger is review of the intelligence framework o
>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state...
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the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not letting the country going into default. >> oh, h -- >> come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >> does it raise the broader question, though, charges charles, that the president is out of touch? >> that's what i was trying to get at. i don't get that sense but it's something that could be embarrassing, your underlings have to make sure that you understand things are happening and you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases. there's no getting around that. it's an embarrassment. it happened at about the same time. that means that people will make connections even if they are not logical connections to make. i don't necessari
the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not letting the country going into default. >> oh, h -- >> come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i...
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they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be with "the baltimoresun" and i wrote back in 1985 and can say i was not shocked about any of this, but i think perhaps one of the most interesting questions these documents raise is i refer to the agency as an omnivore. they're under pressure from policymakers, from the white house, see -- cia, dod to the state department to sort of the prepared to supply information on almost anything. inrisis breaks out tomorrow an unexpected place, and nsa is under heavy pressure to produce intelligence from that place. and that combined with a big- budget in secrecy has, i think, created what actually secretary of state
they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be...
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the nsa situation has been happening over a very long time. the website issues happened over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out. the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not to let the country go into default. >> ah. >> there is no ah, come on, ross. >> sorry. >> but they're kind of separate things. i think you're right. you take your lumps, because they do happen at the same time. and people will draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think that they should. >> does it raise the broader question, though, charles, that the president is out of touch? >> that is what i was trying to get at. i just don't get that sense, but i do believe that whenever there is something that could be embarrassing, you know, your underlings have a responsibility to make sure you're covered and to make sure you understand things are happening and that you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases, there is no getting around that. it is an embarrassment. they happened to
the nsa situation has been happening over a very long time. the website issues happened over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out. the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not to let the country go into default. >> ah. >> there is no ah, come on, ross. >> sorry. >> but they're kind of separate things. i think you're right. you take your lumps, because they do happen at the same time. and people will draw a...
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magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively trying to quash the story, manage it, when you have leaks every day, something different. they need a better strategy to kind of get in front of this, i think, be more transparent because these leaks are coming. >> hard to protect the system of intelligence gathering when that's happening, the drip, drip. >> good to see you in person. >> come down more. >> come back. >> i will. >> imagine what they're saying on the phone with the pope? i'd like to be in on those calls. >> i don't know i'd want to know. >> edward snowden, former government contractor wh
magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively...
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his job was to administer a website that brought information to nsa hawaii. he did not have access to fisa data or business records to 15 or some of our more sensitive -- to he did get great access the core of our reporting, and he took a lot of that data with him, and he has shared that with newspaper reported -- reporters. that is what is being dribbled out, and i believe it is being done in a way that would cause national harm. i don't know why they would want to harm our country, but that is what is happening, and our allies. >> let me ask you this. as far as the information that you collect and store, what is the difference there, because i know that these micro-target others and people that do , theyet ads and whatever know what kind of food we eat. they know what kind of car we drive. they know all different types of information about us. what kind of difference -- different things do they use rather than what you use, because evidently, you use or have access to less information than what they do? difference tos a what we are authorized to -- remember
his job was to administer a website that brought information to nsa hawaii. he did not have access to fisa data or business records to 15 or some of our more sensitive -- to he did get great access the core of our reporting, and he took a lot of that data with him, and he has shared that with newspaper reported -- reporters. that is what is being dribbled out, and i believe it is being done in a way that would cause national harm. i don't know why they would want to harm our country, but that...
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the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >> does it raise the broader question that the president is out of touch? >> that's what i was trying to get at. i don't get that sense but it's your underlings have to make sure that you understand things are happening and you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases. there's no getting around that. it's an embarrassment. it happened at about the same time. people will make connections even if they are not logical connections to make. i don't necessarily think this is a president that is out of the loop. >> as i said, i agree with charles in a sense th
the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >>...
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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curbing the nsa, putting the brakes on that mass itch data collection system. >>> counting down to the winter olympics. sochi trying to get ready. >>> the head of the agency in charge of putting together president obama's health care law with the affordable health care website. >> i want to apologize to you that the website hasn't worked as well as it could. we know you need affordable coverage. we assure you that the website will be fixed. >> she had cmk the centers for medicare and medicaid services, the congress people continue to grill her, tavener says the issues should be fixed at the end of november. she is the first person to testify about the website and let's listen in. >> i'm not asking for incomes verification. if a person signs up were they offered credible employer insurance? because that's been delayed, you have to come up with a new verification tool to determine their eligibility for suns dis. if a person meets the qualifications they can't get credible insurance. >> that's correct sphwhrp if a a -- if a person is twif years old, they can get that subsidy but if they'r
curbing the nsa, putting the brakes on that mass itch data collection system. >>> counting down to the winter olympics. sochi trying to get ready. >>> the head of the agency in charge of putting together president obama's health care law with the affordable health care website. >> i want to apologize to you that the website hasn't worked as well as it could. we know you need affordable coverage. we assure you that the website will be fixed. >> she had cmk the...
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we begin with the latest in the nsa controversy. ambassador to spain, james costas it was called after reports of 60 medical spanish phone calls. >> the european union met behind closed doors. german parliamentians would like to know why they tapped chancellor angela merkel's phone calls. >> we are not considering our chancellor as a terrorist. therefore, i would say they have to think about or to reconsider what they really are interested. >> many americans fear their privacy may have been come promised. >> i am outraged like most people here, you know, at the mass surveillance that's going on. and people just don't seem to be upset about it. it's blatantly unconstitutional. >> we need to tell congress they need to act. we need to demand it. >> the crowd heard jess lin radack from the governmentt. it included this pointed message. >> we are here to remind our government officials that they are public servants, not private investigators. >> for more, i am joined from washington, d.c. by jesselyn y radack from the government accounta
we begin with the latest in the nsa controversy. ambassador to spain, james costas it was called after reports of 60 medical spanish phone calls. >> the european union met behind closed doors. german parliamentians would like to know why they tapped chancellor angela merkel's phone calls. >> we are not considering our chancellor as a terrorist. therefore, i would say they have to think about or to reconsider what they really are interested. >> many americans fear their privacy...
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of...
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we begin with the latest in the nsa controversy. ambassador to spain, james costas it was called after reports of 60 medical spanish phone calls. >> the european union met behind closed doors. german parliamentians would like to know why they tapped chancellor angela merkel's phone calls. >> we are not considering our chancellor as a terrorist. therefore, i would say they have to think about or to reconsiderk . . . lz >> >> ? >> >>> welcome to al jazeera america. i'm stephanie here are the top stories. a bipartisan group of lawmakers plans to introduce a bill that could strip the nsa of om of its powers. if passed it ends the agency's ability to bulk collect phone records and restrict who it can spy on. >> fighting in syria blocked u.n. inspectors from access to two chemical weapons facilities, a setback in an attempt to rid syria of chemical weapons. inspectors did not say whether the syrian rebels or the government was responsible for the delay. negotiations for access are under way. >>> abortion right supporters in texas are cele
we begin with the latest in the nsa controversy. ambassador to spain, james costas it was called after reports of 60 medical spanish phone calls. >> the european union met behind closed doors. german parliamentians would like to know why they tapped chancellor angela merkel's phone calls. >> we are not considering our chancellor as a terrorist. therefore, i would say they have to think about or to reconsiderk . . . lz >> >> ? >> >>> welcome to al jazeera...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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so, look, here's the cia, i mean the nsa chief saying these things, the nsa spying on diplomats at the request of ambassadors. what do you say about that? rick? >> i have to agree. there are a lot of am pabassado around the world that really want to know what's happening from the other side the aisle so to speak. so there's a lot of requests that go back to agency personnel. the sip pell fact is the agency personnel is only responding to the policymakers. the politicians and others feel the pressure from those in the field who want the intelligence and they're the ones who are responding. they don't make the rules. if you want to change the rules, lobby congress or get congress, the congressional oversight committees, to be aggressive. >> the challenge came from james caru rosepep, a former u.s. ambassador to romania during the clinton administration, and he now a democratic state senator in maryland. during this exchange between the two, with general alexander, he was pressing the nsa chief to give a, quote, national security justification for the agency's surveillance for combating t
so, look, here's the cia, i mean the nsa chief saying these things, the nsa spying on diplomats at the request of ambassadors. what do you say about that? rick? >> i have to agree. there are a lot of am pabassado around the world that really want to know what's happening from the other side the aisle so to speak. so there's a lot of requests that go back to agency personnel. the sip pell fact is the agency personnel is only responding to the policymakers. the politicians and others feel...
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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they will deal with the nsa surveillance programs. we showed the morning sessions earlier. you can watch them on c-span video library. we will be live with the afternoon session at 1:00 eastern time. the senate is in at 2:00 eastern live on c-span to continuing debate on work based discrimination bill. also considering to judicial nominations today. live this afternoon, the u.s. news on hospitals and health care. we will hear from former senate republican leader in surgeon will frisk as well as don usha leyla and the head of the cleveland clinic and tax six message -- texas medical center live at 3:00 eastern on c-span three. this evening, a look at the economic impact of the two thousand eight financial crisis with former top economic advisers from the past three administrations. monitoringll will be -- moderating. >> at the beginning of the 2009 year a sense of missed opportunity. the fiscal stimulus was needed. i wonder if a different kind of stimulus with some of the changes that larry hinted at, dropping high-speed rail and energy might have gotten bipartisan support.
they will deal with the nsa surveillance programs. we showed the morning sessions earlier. you can watch them on c-span video library. we will be live with the afternoon session at 1:00 eastern time. the senate is in at 2:00 eastern live on c-span to continuing debate on work based discrimination bill. also considering to judicial nominations today. live this afternoon, the u.s. news on hospitals and health care. we will hear from former senate republican leader in surgeon will frisk as well as...
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the direction of national intelligence, and nsa director both set to testify about u.s. spying allegations from brazil to germany. randall pinkston joins us live on capital hill, and randall they said trust has to be in their words rebuilt between the u.s. and its allies. are stepping being taken to do that? >> given all of the issues right now, the administration certainly did not need the headache of having it revealed that the u.s. has been spying on some of its top allies. they are meeting with the nsa director, keith alexander who will be testifying later today on intelligence. they will be grilled, both of them, alexander as well as james clapper on the extent of america's spying operations and there will also be the introduction of legislation to scale back to modify the patriot act. this legislation will be introduced by the author of the patriot act, and among other things it will put restrictions on the gathering of metadata, as well as refining the extent to which america can engage in foreign intelligence, and presumably that will take into account spying on
the direction of national intelligence, and nsa director both set to testify about u.s. spying allegations from brazil to germany. randall pinkston joins us live on capital hill, and randall they said trust has to be in their words rebuilt between the u.s. and its allies. are stepping being taken to do that? >> given all of the issues right now, the administration certainly did not need the headache of having it revealed that the u.s. has been spying on some of its top allies. they are...